junior discussion scenario 2

candidate brief

One of the FY2s in ED would like to discuss a few patients with you.

actor brief

  • 1st patient - 35yo asthmatic came in wheezy
    • No previous ICU/hospital admissions - asthma is managed well in community usually
    • Has had 1 round of nebs (salbutamol + ipratropium) and prednisolone 30mg and feels much better now
    • Does not use peak flows normally so doesn't know baseline
    • Non-smoker, generally healthy apart from asthma, thinks trigger is recent flu-like illness
  • 2nd patient - 79yo fall now unable to weight bear
    • 79yo fall from standing while in toilet
    • PMH aortic stenosis, AF, macular degeneration
    • Usually walks with frame
    • note she has been persistently tachycardic (110-120) despite oramorph
    • XR pelvis NAD
    • you want to send to physio/CDU for good analgesia in the hopes that will control hte pain
  • 3rd patient - head injury in 16yo
    • 16yo who was kneed in the eye during rugby
    • no LOC, no vomiting since
    • currently ℅ nausea and double vision - in fact got more nauseated when you tested his vision
    • tender around orbit but you think it's mostly soft tissue
    • you want to send him home with good analgesia and eye clinic?

examiner brief

  • Introduces self to junior doctor
  • Confirms their level of experience
  • Allows junior doctor to present first case
    • Asks relevant questions to gain additional information
    • Asks about observations
    • Checks treatment received
    • Safe discharge advice - steroids TTO (prednisolone), check inhaler/spacer technique
  • Allows junior doctor to present second case
    • Asks relevant questions to gain additional information - character of pain etc.
    • Asks about observations
    • Recognise possible differentials for persistent tachycardia
    • Need for CT pelvis to rule out vascular injury and/or occult bony injury
    • Teaching re pelvic injuries
  • Allows junior doctor to present third case
    • Asks relevant questions to gain additional information
    • Recognise need for CT head due to diplopia - either cranial nerve defect or could be entrapped ocular muscles
    • Teaching re maxfax fractures!
  • elicits questions
  • agrees for plan
  • advice regarding accessing further information
  • global mark from FY2
  • global mark from examiner