junior discussion scenario 1

candidate brief

One of the FY2s in ED would like to discuss a few patients with you.

actor brief

  • 1st patient - 4 month old with 3 days cough, coryza, brought in by parents
    • moderate WOB, sats normal on air, RR 50
    • term baby, no PMH, up to date vaccinations
    • feeding about 50% of normal
    • sounds wheezy - not improving on salbutamol
    • you are keen to start nebs, you have heard about "burst treatment"
  • 2nd patient - bilateral renal colic in 77yo in waiting room
    • background of hypertension, diabetes, TIA
    • abdo mildly tender
    • urine dip NAD
    • you want to send him home with urology hot clinic as per stone pathway
  • 3rd patient - head injury in 82yo
    • 82yo who stood, felt dizzy and 'must have' fallen backwards and hit her head
    • husband says she was confused afterwards for about an hour
    • currently does not remember what happened this morning
    • you didn't think she needed a CT as she is not on anticoagulants, you think she is just dazed from the fall
    • you have seen her bloods and ECG - all normal
    • no focal neurology
    • you want to send her home

examiner brief

  • Introduces self to junior doctor
  • Confirms their level of experience
  • Allows junior doctor to present first case
    • Asks relevant questions to gain additional information
    • Asks about observations
    • Recognise bronchiolitis as most likely diagnosis
    • Teaching re bronchiolitis vs VIW - Explain wheeze in bronchiolitis will not improve with salbutamol
    • Suggest referring to paediatrics - not a safe discharge if still has increased WOB
  • Allows junior doctor to present second case
    • Asks relevant questions to gain additional information - character of pain etc.
    • Asks about observations
    • Recognise possible AAA - POCUS AAA, resus, senior r/v asap
    • Teaching re atypical presentations of AAA
  • Allows junior doctor to present third case
    • Asks relevant questions to gain additional information
    • Recognise need for CT head due to post-traumatic amnesia + age
    • Teaching re CT head criteria/guidelines
  • elicits questions
  • agrees for plan
  • advice regarding accessing further information
  • global mark from FY2
  • global mark from examiner

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